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Cpt Branko
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Posted - 2010.04.12 09:34:00 -
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The module itself is just fine on non-angel ships.
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Posted - 2010.04.12 11:05:00 -
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Edited by: Cpt Branko on 12/04/2010 11:07:12
Originally by: Morel Nova the dramiel isnt the issue here. I'm talking about cynabals. ECM bursts are even more efficent against ceptors. although I have seen burst dramiels about also, they are pretty nasty, but the lower cap on them makes using the module a lot less efficient. my taranis or stiletto would have the same problem.
I hear wcs + burst fit Dramael is fun
But yeah, I can see how the thing is just OP on the Cynabal, it's just that the module has so far never really been a problem, since a lot of the speed ships couldn't fit it without gimping themselves because of midslots, and slow ships aren't that hard to kill even with one. I'd really say it's more of a Cynabal issue then anything.
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Posted - 2010.04.12 11:15:00 -
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Edited by: Cpt Branko on 12/04/2010 11:17:50
Originally by: Raimo
But how would you nerf the ECM Burst fit Cyna without gimping "less OP" (albeit good) regular fits?
I have no idea, honestly.
I get this feeling that CCP will do the usual thing and just nerf Angel ships with a heavy hand because of all the drama they're creating, which would be a shame.
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Posted - 2010.04.12 13:49:00 -
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Originally by: foksieloy Not overpowered.
Carry on, nothing to see here folks.
Well, failOP tears are kind off nice...
Yeah, Genos really never fly Dramiels, Cynabals and stuff with wcs and/or ecm burst
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Posted - 2010.04.13 09:26:00 -
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Originally by: Taudia Edited by: Taudia on 13/04/2010 09:00:15
Cynabals are pretty OP as I see it. Personally, I think the nano-ing capabilities of ships like the Ishtar, the Curse, the Gila or the vagabond is plenty and difficult enough to deal with if the pilot is capable. I am not an expert on nano but it seems to me that the cynabal is better in some ways than the ships I just mentioned, if not nearly strictly better than vagabonds. Though I suspect that keeping this particular ship from being very much like a Vagabond or a Hurricane will be difficult, but it is frustrating to deal with ships I basically have to be lucky to counter.
Driving off nanoships is generally speaking easy (unless it's a Curse or something, where only epic fail from the pilot will save you or landing on it sub 10km which is again epic fail from the pilot).
Killing them is not as trivial, but you've actually got good odds of doing this in a Hurricane if you play your cards right. It's certainly not a big deal to catch most Vagabonds out there, but the Vagabond has such shoddy agility in comparison to the Cynabal. In theory the Cynabal should be much much more difficult to catch, but as never actually had a Cynabal try to fight me, can't really speak from personal experience.
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Posted - 2010.04.13 09:47:00 -
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Originally by: steave435
[Sentinel, New Setup 1]
How do you expect to survive in that thing? ;)
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Posted - 2010.04.15 01:27:00 -
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Edited by: Cpt Branko on 15/04/2010 01:28:47 Edited by: Cpt Branko on 15/04/2010 01:28:02
Originally by: Darthewok A Vaga that you cannot chase off due to higher gank/tank, that you cannot even catch if it is careless (because of dual prop/ECM burst)?
Idk, I had one engage me the first time (ehp fit) and instead of doing the usual Vagabond trick (exploding) he got away in half hull
Damn faction ships and their armor/hull HP.
Definitely a lot sturdier ship when EHP fitted then a Vagabond, but it can't do all the things you say at the same time, you know? It's either got more EHP (except vs lasers) or has ecm burst or has dual prop (or sensor booster to combine with wcs, lol), can't do all three at the same time obviously.
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Posted - 2010.04.15 21:30:00 -
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Originally by: Omara Otawan
Originally by: Morel Nova
pretty much this. they should have a ship per race capable of this tbh. make sacrilige nanoable again, make deimos very speedy/agile perhaps, caldari has navy caracal so they are pretty fine.
Ishtar, Zealot, Sacrilege and even Deimos all make better nano ships than the Navy Caracal tbh. The only race that lacks a viable option in that regard is caldari.
Gila works with ze snakes.
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Posted - 2010.04.16 14:40:00 -
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Originally by: Morgaine Veruq the Cynabal/Dramiel has been one of those ships that enabled solo play in this game.
There was no solo before the Cynabal/Dramael and there will be no solo if they get nerfed
Originally by: Morgaine Veruq Linkage. Lol.
Wow, you can kill a Cynabal with 9 ships.
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